Yesterday I posted a blog entitled, “Fake Celebrity ‘Christian’ and ‘Conservative’ pro-life and pro-family leaders have only themselves to blame for Obama’s tax subsidized abortions!”
One of the counterfeit “pro-family” “Christian” groups I cited was Jay Sekulow’s American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ.)
Minutes after I sent out the post to over 500 consevative and Christian pro-family and pro-life lawyers, leaders and pundits, I received an indignant request from Jay’s son, Jordan Sekulow to be “removed from the list.”
I don’t believe that I have to add to our subsequent exchange below.
I believe it is pretty self-explanatory…
As you read our exchange, ask yourself if you consider yourself to be a pro-life, pro-family constitutional Christian conservative if the Sekulow’s represent your core values and beliefs…
Remove me from the list Gregg
And by the way, we were against the Stupak compromise deal – very clearly, do some research Gregg – I know you have the time on your hands…
Me: No, Jordan.
You were copied for a reason. You are not on a “list.” And I won’t stop cc’ing you when I feel it is appropriate irregardless of your indignant and petulant requests.
I know this post I wrote must hit close to home since you worked for the man who unilaterally, illegally and unconstitutionally implemented sodomy-based “marriage” and signed into law $50 abortions (2 years AFTER his “pro-life conversion.”) Mitt Romney. His entire fully documented far left wing record is documented here. http://greggjackson.com/blog/?p=471 Anything not accurate in it, Jordan? How could you and your dad continue to support this man who signed the death warrants of thousands of babies in Massachusetts at $50 dollars each and claim to be a “pro-family Christian” as you and your dad claim?
And what reason do you have to be critical of ObamaCare’s subsidization of abortion given the fact that you are a proud supporter of the man who ushered in tax subsidized elective surgical abortions into law in his quasi-socialist healthcare plan, Mitt Romney?
P.S. As to your little snide comment about my having so much “time on my hands”: I actually don’t as I am keeping myself quite busy, you’ll be pleased to know, writing my next book on the counterfeit conservative and Christian movement in America and you and your father will have your own chapter dedicated to you so all grassroots Christians and conservatives can learn the truth about how you have lied and deceived millions (like when you both portrayed Mitt Romney as a pro-life, pro-family conservative for example) while you simultaneously enriched yourselves buying fancy homes and flying around the world on private jets, etc…So, between that and running my own business (not leaching off my father like some people) and raising a family, I am keeping pretty busy but appreciate your concern, Jordan. We can’t all be as fortunate as you, Jordan. After all, not everybody has a rich daddy like you do who can buy his son air time that he can use to rip off retired women on Social Security every day as you and your father do.
Jordan Sekulow: Remove from list or we’ll do our job. I’ve had enough of this, asked to be removed from this spam many times.
Anyone on this list 1) had a team in Pakistan defending christians against the death penalty 2) had bombs go off at rallies in Kenya because you’re fighting for the life of the unborn? 3) anyone ever been outside the US and seen the battles we’re facing against the pro-abortion establishment and radical islam?
Until you have, don’t criticize those who risk their lives on the front lines for these issues.
Remove me from the list or I take other steps.
Me: You’ll “do your job” Jordan?
Yeah, I wish you would Jordan.
Really, I do.
I really wish you would stop lying and deceiving millions of Christians and conservatives by claiming to be “pro-family” “Christians” while portraying the Founding Father of sodomy-based “marriage” and the 50 dollar Romneybort as an authentic pro-family conservative. Will you start doing your job instead of compromising Biblical Truth and lying to millions of Christians?
You still have not answered my questions:
Why did you claim that you never supported the Stupak Amendment when a simple Google Search demonstrates that you and your dad did?
Your dad, Jay Sekulow said of the Stupak Amendment:
“The American Center for Law and Justice, a pro-life legal group, also applauded the vote.
“The passage of this pro-life amendment represents the only bright spot in an otherwise troubling government-run health care package put forth by House Speaker Pelosi,” ACLJ chief counsel Jay Sekulow told LifeNews.com.
“Sekulow gave kudos to Bart Stupak and Joseph Pitts “for their unrelenting efforts in protecting the unborn” but said, “Unfortunately, the leadership in the House has produced a disturbing and flawed health care package that not only fails to meet the needs of most Americans, but interjects an unprecedented level of government intrusion and bureaucracy into health care.”
You and your dad “opposed the Stupak Amendment, Jordan?” Seriously? That’s an outright lie. Do you have any clue what you are talking about?
And how can you criticize ObamaCare’s tax funded abortions when you still support the man who signed 50 dollar elective surgical abortions into law (Mitt Romney)?
Come on Jordan. Have the guts to debate and defend your position instead of threatening to sue or whatever it is you claim “you’ll do” when confronted with uncomfortable truths that reveal your duplicity and hypocrisy.
And by the way, anti-spam laws don’t apply to personal e-mails where you are cc’d. A simple google search would reveal that too.
Be a man and answer the questions asked honestly. Would think a public figure like yourself would not have a problem with that. Or will you only debate when you can control the mic?
Jordan Sekulow: Amendment. Yes. Compromise. No.
Political reality boys and girls – the pro-aborts outnumbered us and we wanted to do what we could to save some unborn lives. We have to work in the real world – you spend your time writing emails to people. Spend some time in the West Bank, Zimbabwe, Kenya (Christians being bombed at EACLJ rallies), and Pakistan
After that, you can comment.
Me: So you admit you knew that Mitt Romney signed $50 dollar abortions into law (2 years after his fake “pro-life conversion) when you went to work for him on his presidential campaign and endorse him for president? You mean it was your understanding Romney wasn’t a “pro-abort?”
And how would have supporting the man whose socialist healthcare plan that served as the model for ObamaCare (Mitt Romney) which subsidized elective surgical abortions on demand, “saved some lives, Jordan?”
Not really getting your warped rationale for working for and supporting the Founding Father of sodomy-based “marriage” and the $50 tax-payer funded abortion, for president of the United States, Mitt Romney…
And again, why did you lie when you said that neither you nor your father supported Stupak when you actually did?
Jordan Sekulow: We’ve been getting death threats, nails in our tires, war declared on us since I was a kid. Live in the trenches for a while boys – then comment
Me: Does “living in the trenches” include lying for pro-abort, pro-homosexual politicians like Romney? and does it include living in 3 mansions and flying around in your dad’s private jet? Sounds tough Jordan.
Jordan Sekulow: That jet has been on aclj tv shows since I was a little kid – never been hidden…As for Romney, Gregg it’s 2010 right? Move on to the next battle – don’t get stuck in the past my friend.
Me: No, Jordan. Romney is the leading GOP candidate in many polls and you and your father played a prominent role in elevating and validating his status. So, his candidacy and your support is still very germane.
So how can you reconcile your criticism of Obamacare’s funding for abortion when you supported the man who signed 50 dollar abortions into law, Mitt Romney?
And why did you falsely claim you and your dad never supported Stupak which would have funded abortions when a simple google search proves otherwise?
Jordan Sekulow: Remove me from the list Gregg. I don’t care about your debate between your friends. Remove me from the list – you spam, you know, remove me. It’s such a joke emailing any “sekulow” email you can to try and reach one of us.
Remove me from the list. I expect a reply by am tomorrow.
Me: Jordan, once again: you are not on any “list.”
I intentionally cc’d you since I cited your father on my recent blog post to provide you with an opportunity to respond.
I can understand why you have no further desire to communicate since you were unable to answer some very direct and I believe fair questions regarding your working and ongoing support for Mitt Romney (and hypocritical criticism of ObamaCare’s abortion subsidies) as well as your false statement made tonight that you (and your father) never supported Stupak when the record clearly reveals you did.
I guess your refusal to candidly discuss these issues is all anybody on this thread needs to know about your character and integrity…
If I have said anything untrue, please bring it to my attention and I will gladly correct the record…
Jordan Sekulow: I don’t want another email from you Gregg – you aren’t worth the time to debate with. If I receive another, I’ll move to other options.
Me: If I continue to press you about why you worked for and still support the Founding Father of sodomy “marriage” and the 50 dollar tax-payer funded abortion, Mitt Romney, for President of the United States, you will “move to other options” Jordan?
Give me a break…Grow up…
How about just answering the question as to why you and your dad (Jay Sekulow) still support the man (Mitt Romney) who…
• Illegally & unconstitutionally instituted sodomy “marriage.”
• Signed $50 tax-subsidized abortions into law (2 years AFTER his fake “pro-life conversion.”)
• Boosted funding for homosexual “education” starting in kindergarten.
• Opposes a ban on homosexual scoutmasters.
• Promised the homosexual Republican “Log Cabin Republicans” he wouldn’t oppose “gay marriage” in return for their endorsement.
• Instituted a quasi-socialist healthcare plan endorsed by Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and Planned Parenthood that destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy.
• Increased taxes and fees by close to a billion dollars which destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy and opposed the Bush Tax Cuts.
• Voted # 8 RINO by Human Events.
• Passed over Republican lawyers for three quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he faced and nominated 2 open homosexuals.
• Criticized Joint Chief’s of Staff, Peter Pace for saying that homosexual acts were “immoral.”
• Supports passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act which would force churches and other religious organizations to hire homosexuals and transvestites or face criminal fines and prosecution.
Documented Proof Links here:
And if you can’t answer this simple question, perhaps your dad can. Surely he is never at a loss for words and can defend his continued support for Romney and past support for legislation (Stupak) that would have subsidized the deaths of 1000s of babies in the womb with tax-payer dollars…
Jordan Sekulow: You’re not uncovering anything – the support was public and in mainstream media. Gov Romney would and still could make a great candidate (My emphasis)
Remove me from the list – final email
Me: So Jordan you think that the man who compiled the radical far left wing record Romney did (below) would still make a “great candidate” in the future?
My bad, guy.
I thought you, your dad and ACLJ was actually pro-life, pro-marriage, and pro-limited government.
I am sure that millions of Christians will want to know this in a national press release. Thanks for the quote…Now we know where you and your dad stand.
Thanks Jordan…Appreciate your candor…
Jordan Sekulow: You use that line, – my quote – please
Don’t forget, we’ve recently spent time with Governor Palin and other leaders of the grassroots conservative movement
Off of the list by am – this is SPAM
Me: Ok, thanks Jordan.
I will quote you in a national press release as saying that in spite of the fact that Romney illegally instituted sodomy-based “marriage” unilaterally, unconstitutionally and illegally and signed $50 dollar elective surgical abortions on demand into law (2 years AFTER his supposed “pro-life conversion”), (which you have not even attempted to dispute) that you and ACLJ still think that Romney “would and still could make a great candidate.” I am sure that millions of Christians will want to know where you stand. Once again, thanks for your candor.
By the way, here are the SPAM laws and you will see that they don’t apply to our e-mail conversation we are having. So you can save your impotent threats…My lawyer friend shared this with me a few months back when another conterfeit conservative public figure like yourself threatened to sue me for e-mailing him about something he had said on the air…
As it turns out, Jordan, accusing somebody of doing something illegal to a number of 3rd parties without any true basis, as you have done, is libel.
Spam is a legal term with a legal meaning. Anti-Spam Laws concern “commercial messages,” “advertisement or solicitation,” etc. Anti-Spam Laws are to prevent Internet marketing – not freedom of speech.
Truth-telling is still permitted in America … at least for the short-term. Your toothless threat to tattletale is silly. It was probably too much of an inconvenience for you, but a 3-second Internet search on Anti-Spam Laws (see below) makes it clear that I am doing nothing “illegal.”
Unlike what I have written, however, falsely accusing someone of doing something illegal to a number of 3rd parties without any true basis, as you have done Jordan, is libel.
Is your only response to the substantive issues I have raised simply to whine about receiving “spam” e-mails?
Don Hank: Gregg,
If what you say is true, then the whole Sekulow empire is based on a hoax and these people are taking people’s money based on a fraud. I wonder if that is legal? Particularly now that we all are witnesses to the fact that Jordan KNOWS the facts about the Stupak legislation and about Mitt Romney. He certainly can’t say “oh, gosh, Judge, I had no idea I was using false information to make my father’s organization look like it was pro-life. I actually thought Mitt was a real pro-lifer.”
At any rate, it would be good to have a brief article on this, with links etc. However, I know your book will give the details.
This is despicable.
Don Hank: Jordan,
If I recall correctly, I gave money to your rich father believing he was a good man who was sincerely supporting a pro-life platform, among other things. His support for Romney makes me really angry, and also ashamed of myself for being so naïve.
When you say “move on to the next battle,” it seems like you want all of us whom you have conned over the years to forgive and forget.
I can forgive, but if I forget, then I am being irresponsible, because I have a duty to warn others about this scam.
As for the money you took, you really owe a lot of people and should pay it back.