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  1. NewEnglandPatriot Says:

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  2. Just a few thoughts: Says:

    1. That’s three questions, not one “three-part” question.

    2. What Little League on the planet asks what hospital a kid was born in, or the name of the attending physician, or the time of his birth?

    3. The US Constitution also does not appear to care if the President is born in a hospital at all ( a very good thing, since most were not), or the name of the attending physician (another good thing, since a whole lot of Presidents had no attending physician) or time of birth.

    So… if the Constitution does not care, why do you?

  3. David Says:

    Gregg, great offer! It will be interesting to see who claims the money. Even Obama himself can’t claim it! Ha!

  4. George Says:

    I’m not in the media so am exempt from your offer. However, I can answer your 3 part question.

    1. Was not born in any hospital in the State of Hawaii! (So, there can be no answer to this question)
    For the record: ‘Coastal Province General Hospital’ Mombasa, Kenya!

    2. James O. W. Ang’awa!

    3. 7:24 PM EAT!

    Now, you may want to amend your offer to read;
    ‘Considering the above information which of you can prove otherwise’.

    G B

  5. admin Says:

    “Just a few thoughts”:

    Actually the Constasitution requires that the president be a natural born citizen. Since the COLB Obama has posted on the web site was given out at the time (1961) to people not even born in Hawaii, it is not a valid form of ID that would prove country of birth. Again, Obama has yet to release his long-form birth certificate showing the hospital he was born at, the physician who delievered him and the date and time he was born.

    Why would he spend over a Million dollars keeping this information hidden if in fact he actually possessed it?

    Looking forward to your providing me with actual proof of where Obama was born, the docotor who delivered him and the time/date. Until I see that information, I am of the opinion we have an illegal alien in the WH.


  6. Jon Says:

    1. Kapiolani Hospital

    2. Dr. Rodney T. West.

    3. 7:24pm

    Where is my $50,000?

  7. Josh Says:

    I don’t know the answers to those questions, but I do know they are totally irrelevant to the question of whether Barrack Obama is a citizen of the United States.

    In order to qualify you must have at least one parent who was a citizen of the United States at the time of birth. Barrack Obama’s mother (Ann Dunham) qualifies as a citizen of the United States as she was born in Kansas (I don’t believe her citizenship is a question here). So, even if Barrack Obama wasn’t born in the United States, he can still be a citizen because his mothers citizenship is passed to him.

    There are certain groups who believe that in order to qualify as a natural born citizen one must be conceived by two citizens of the United States. Is this the reason you believe he is not qualified to be President of the United States? If this is the case, unfortunately for you, you are in the minority. If you are serious you could file a lawsuit to allow the courts to decide on that matter.

    There are certain stipulations of course for transference of citizenship, which you can read here:

  8. admin Says:

    Jon, funny. Please cite the actual birth certificate where you got this info. The info you cite is actually contradicted by Obama himself who has claimed he was born in Queens Medical Center.


  9. admin Says:

    Josh, actually, Obama’s father was not an American citizen and therefore could never bequeath natural born citizenship on his son and neither could his mother since the law stated that she had to have been a US citizen for at least 5 years if she was under 18 which she wasn’t.

    The birth certificate isn’t “irrelevant.” It’s the only thing that can determine if Obama was actually born in Hawaii and is a natural born U.S. citizen constitutionally authorized to serve as president.

    Still waiting for anybody to actually answer the questions above with an authenticated BC to back it up.


  10. cookie Says:

    Gregg, you are a funny funny man! and so full of it,a 12 year-old does not have to provide a BC with the Hospital, Physician and time, just a BC ,In most if not all states now a days, a copy of a BC doesn’t even have the Hospital, Physician and time born on It!
    And yes you are small time…lol!!!!!

    Want to know how many lies I’ve seen from you so far…lol

  11. Josh Says:

    Actually, there are two applicable, for this discussion, rules for those born between 1952 and 1986.

    1. The parent who is the citizen must have lived at least 10 years in the US before the child’s birth.
    2. 5 of those 10 must be after the parents 14th birthday. *
    You can find this information on the site I linked to earlier.

    *Ann Dunham was born in 1942 and left for Indonesia in 1966 which doing the math means she qualified. As far as I know she was a citizen her entire life. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

    There are many very valid reasons to disagree with Barrack Obama’s policies. This just doesn’t seem like one of those to me.

  12. Rosie Says:

    Who subverted/killed the Constitution?

    1. Obama, Pelosi, & Coulter-likes
    2. with sh*! shovels
    3. in the mainstream media

    And I believe sir, that is as close as anyone’s gonna get.

  13. Alex Says:

    And of course the brainless obots are sent over right away, to spew nonsense and try and obfuscate the truth.

    The problem is that so very many people are now aware and becoming aware of just what a total fraud their liah mess-iah is, they just end up looking like clue-less idiots. Aren’t you kool-aid kids tired of that already? Your mess-iah isn’t paying you enough to sell your souls. Get out! Get some fresh air! Get a life!

    Anyhoo, thank you, Gregg. I’ll be forwarding your very generous offer to media types.

  14. Father Time Says:

    Actually, there are two applicable, for this discussion, rules for those born between 1952 and 1986.

    1. The parent who is the citizen must have lived at least 10 years in the US before the child’s birth.
    2. 5 of those 10 must be after the parents 14th birthday. *

    OK Josh #1 Ann meets but #2 Ann did not meet by 1 year with what you post.
    Ann was 18 Year old when she gave birth to Obama not 19 (If she gave birth to Obama, but who would know without a long form BC).

    If we will are going to trust COLB that are posted on the net then what about the Kenya BC (not an COLB) which say Obama was born in Kenya.

    Which is real or is both fakes?

    Anyone who believe what is posted on the net and not proven come and see me for I have some ocean front land to sell you in Nevada. I have Photos.

  15. admin Says:

    Josh, you are incorrect:

    Obama’s American citizen parent, Ann Dunham, had to have been a resident of the United States for 10 years, at least five of which were over the age of 14. Dunham did not meet that requirement (of the Nationality Act of 1940, revised June, 1952) until her 19th birthday in late November of 1961, almost four months after Obama was born.

    Sorry my friend.


  16. Alex Says:

    Another thing about obots: They, by and large, know what the truth is. They just don’t care. That’s what’s so sad about them – no integrity. Because intellectual integrity demands that you seek out the truth – then use that as a light to shine the way. They walk in darkness.

  17. Jon Says:

    Did Bush prove that he was born in the US? Did people verify his birth? I personally have never seen Bush\’s Birth certificate, so I can now claim he broke the law by being the president. All his executive orders are now invalid.

    Seriously now….

    Dr. Chiyomi Fukino, the state of Hawaii\’s health director, has personally verified the original document. Linda Lingle(a republican) has sealed the actual document fearing it\’s safety. The State of Hawaii has personally verified his birth certificate and state that he was born in their state. That is pretty official as one can get. If you think Obama wasn\’t born in Hawaii, then you\’re pretty much claiming that Hawaii is lieing.

    Also, by continually bringing this up, you \’re bordering on treason. You guys can end up in jail. If you don\’t like the president, you can always leave the country.
    Mexico, India, and russia might be good places for you to go.

    Also, when did Obama say he was born in queens?

  18. ldb Says:

    Here you go. Thanks for the easy money… I know, I know… checks in the mail right?

    1. Kapi’Olani Medical Center for Women and
    Children in Honolulu

    2. The Obstetrician was Dr. Rodney T. West

    3. 7:24 PM

    Please get over this insane obsession. Seek some mental counseling.

    Why does it scare you that Barack Obama ‘IS’ our president? Is it because he is black? Because he is educated? Because he is not part of the pseudo-christian mafia and not under their mind-control programming as you appear to be?

    How does it feel to be a tool of the pseudo-christian mafia David? To be used as a pawn by those greedy, rich, and powerful people who believe that they have been ordained by God to rule us? And they believe they are ‘above’ moral rules as well, they just put on a show for appearances sake so that you think they are moral.

    Do you understand that Doug Coe and other leaders that guide them appreciate and respect rulers like Hitler and Mao? When you try to peg that stuff on President Obama, you are barking up the wrong tree, you should just turn around and look at the people you are listening to on Fox etc.

    Do you understand that they want you confused and afraid because then you are easy to manipulate? Do you understand that their goal is to amass more and more power and rule?

    You watched Bush and Cheney… do you think they gave a damn about our constitution or liberties? I think not!

    If you really gave a damn about the constitution you would be demanding accountability for all of the violations of law that Bush and Cheney perpetrated.

    Do you understand that they consider themselves above the law and do not care what we put in our ‘legislation’?

    Now ‘those’ are the people you ‘should’ be afraid of.

    Those are the people who are destroying our democracy… and you inadvertently and possibly innocently are one of their soldiers, helping them with this agenda…

    Did you know all of that?

    You’ve got it all backwards.

    President Obama is a citizen. I wrote to him and asked him to run for president when he was a senator. I may be disappointed in some of the decisions he has made but am glad he IS president and you appear to have a problem dealing with reality.

    In fact it seems to me you prefer to live in delusion and your sources are always worse than suspect. They are ridiculous.

  19. Josh Says:

    You should actually read the sources you cite.

    Nationality Act of 1940 doesn’t even matter as it is superseded as you say by the Nationality Act of 1952 which states:

    “From and after the effective date of this Act a person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by — (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application, upon an application filed in his behalf by a parent, or duly authorized agent, or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person: Provided, That nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, unless such person shall fail to enter the United States to establish a permanent residence prior to his twenty-fifth birthday:”

    Barrack Obama, born in 1961 obviously falls under this definition. Barrack Obama was under 21, which doesn’t even matter since as I stated earlier I don’t believe his mother ever changed citizenship.. Anyway, I think I’m done here. Be strong, don’t let the facts get in the way of your crusade.

  20. admin Says:

    Jon, Bush was born in Yale-New Haven Hospital and the record of his birth is actually on file there. Obama on the other hand has claimed to have been born in Hawaii but no hospital in Hawaii has confirmed his birth. Big difference.

    What hospital was Obama born in Jon? What was the attending physician’s name? And has the hospital where he has claimed to have been born confirmed he was actually born there?


  21. admin Says:

    Josh, your argument doesn’t make any sense. As I said before, Obama’s father was a foreign citizen and his mother even after the amended naturalization act could not have conferred natural born citizenship on Obama. The only way that Obama could be a narural born citizen is if he was born here in the USA.

    So I ask you again:

    What hospital was Obama born in in Hawaii? Can’t you answer that one simple question? Shouldn’t be too hard for you should it?


  22. admin Says:

    Jon, by bringing up Obama’s birth certificate I’m committing “treason?”

    Spoken like the true Commie you are. Seriously brother, get a hold of yourself. I don’t care what any govt official says about having personally seen Obama’s birth certificate.

    You said, Jon, in an earlier comment in response to my question about where Obama was born, attending physician who delivered him and time:

    “1. Kapiolani Hospital

    2. Dr. Rodney T. West.

    3. 7:24pm

    Where is my $50,000?”

    Where did you get this information from? Please cite your source. This contradicts what Obama and the hospital you cite here has actually said.


  23. jfn0421 Says:

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  24. JiminCali Says:

    Gregg Jackson, please prove your citizenship immediate, otherwise I have to assume you are a foreign national commiting subversive attacks against the United States of America, and thus making this website a TERRORIST SITE, I hereby insist you cease such LIES unless you have concrete PROOF that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA is NOT a citizen, you are a TERRORIST and I am sure are under observation by the CIA under the authority of the PATRIOT act

  25. JiminCali Says:

    hmm this timestamp on my comment is 7 hours ahead, showing your website server is in a foreign country, thereby evadeing US law, proving you are a foregner posing as an AMERICAN, and attempting to destroy the greatist country, AMERICA will win comrade

  26. admin Says:

    Josh, you are mixing up a definition of citizen and natural born citizen. Obama can be a citizen, but he is not a Natural born citizen. If you look up Vattel, “Law of Nations”, it means -one born in the country to two US citizen parents.


  27. Micheal Says:

    Regarding Jon’s post, there is a newspaper story in the “The Buffalo News” which says that a Dr Rodney T West told a woman named Barbara Nelson that “Stanley had a baby.” Nelson is not quoted as saying he was the delivering doctor, although the reporter apparently assumed this. In any case, this story is third hand hearsay, plus it is ambiguous. So it is interesting but is not conclusive.

    Let’s get this over with and take a look at the hospital birth certificate.

  28. dahlia Says:

    1. What hospital in Hawaii was Barack Hussein Obama born in?

    2. Who was the attending physician who delivered BHO?

    3. What time was BHO born?

    Answer there is that his birth name was Barry Obama not
    Barack Hussein Obama.

  29. Jack Says:

    Please keep this stuff up. The GOP is imploding. I’m very happy about that.

  30. Barry Says:

    Jon is correct…

    I should know.


  31. Texo Says:


    Is not stupid because he can use a computer so he is a troll.

    Just the facts.

    BTW… You Lie!

  32. terminu Says:

    The definition and two- US citizen parent requirement for natural born citizenship status, has been reiterated by the Supreme Court and other courts in the cases of The Venus, 12U.S. 253(1814), Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 242 (1830), Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1856), Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875) , Ex parte Reynolds, 20 F. Cas. 582 (C.C.W.D. Ark 1879), United States v. Ward, 42 F. 320 (1890); Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), and Ludlam, Excutrix, & c., v. Ludlam, 26 N.Y. 356 (1863). It has also been confirmed by renowned legislators, including Senator Trumbull, the author of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and Representative John A. Bingham, the architect of the 14th Amendment to our Constitution:

    John Bingham confirms that understanding and the construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:”[4] [5] [6]
    “ [I] find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…. . . ”

    – John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866 (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

  33. terminu Says:

    Jon needs to provide a chain of evidence.
    There has never been a legitimate “chain of evidence” for the online forged COLB.

    The simplest denial of its existence is that one cannot even receive a duplicate from Hawaii of what’s already been released on factcheck.

    Factcheck said it held/touched it (ooh, wow), info from what is from now twice publicly spanked-for-lying (which had to retract its fabricated and non-fact-checked information it put out — Donofrio cornered them handily), the same owned by Annenberg for whom Obama worked for 5 years with terrorist Billy Ayers developing brainwashing socialist programs for youth…THAT factcheck.

    Hawaii has NEVER said that Obama was even born there:
    Director Fukino never affirmed that Obama was born in Honolulu in 1961. What she affirmed was, ” I have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

    Fukino only says she saw the document — she never, ever said what was on it.

    The online COLB was discredited by Ms. Lines and Dr. Polarik. Obama has spent millions and abused DOJ lawywer and taxpayer dollars and (FEC) illegally used campaign dollars to not show a $12 birth certificate (actually free, I’ll pay for it!). Obama’s California lawyer, Fredric Woocher, who was named “Southern California Super Lawyer of 2009” and who gets $600 per hour (claims he’s on the case pro bono) is working Keyes vs. California and to prevent the release the president’s records from Occidental College which witnesses state show he went as a foreign student on foreign student grants.

    “The obvious question must be asked: If Obama has an original “long form” birth certificate issued on the day of his birth by the state of Hawaii, why would he also have a “Certification of Live Birth”?

    It would not be necessary.

    Barack Obama was asked if he was eligible to become president under the Article II ‘natural born’ eligibility clause. Obama masked the truth by posting a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth (COLB). His supporters declared him a natural born citizen under the 14th Amendment and the issue was pushed back into the realm of conspiracy theories.

    Upon further investigation, the mask of the C.O.L.B. started to be more and more revealing of the original 1961 certificate, made much of by Hawaii’s Governor Lingle and the state’s Department of Health official, Dr. Fukino, as more probably a Dept. of Health document and not a hospital long form. [See my recent post on the Hollister dismissal in which I quoted Endnote 12 of Mario Apuzzo’s Kerchner et al vs. Obama et al case. Apuzzo’s jurisprudence of challenging prima facie evidence is brilliant. If Obama was trying to promote his Hawaiian native born status, he would have willingly posted a hospital certificate as solid, best evidence. A C.O.L.B. is labeled as only prima facie evidence; the validity of its information open to inspection by a proper Hawaiian court venue.

    If the C.O.L.B. referenced document was not a hospital birth certificate, what was it? Under Hawaiian statute, specifically §338-5,[7] it is compulsory for the Dept. of Health to register a newborn child of a Hawaiian resident, even if no documentation of place and time of birth is presented. Only the word of one parent is required by law.

    If the hidden 1961 certificate is a §338-5 form, face down like a card in a poker game, the $800,000 Barack Obama ponied up to prevent its public release means Obama is not just bluffing, but covering up perjury and other violations of election law.

    In the end, a §338-5 compulsory registration will be more probative of the direct testimony evidence of Obama’s Kenyan birth,[8] than of his claimed Hawaiian birth.”

  34. dunstvangeet Says:

    1. Kaipiolani Hospital. Obama has never claimed anything else. No one in his family has ever claimed anything else. The misinformation of Queens came from a mistake in a High School Newspaper in an introduction to an interview with Obama’s sister. However, this doesn’t matter. I cannot tell you which hospital in Portland I was born in. My birth certificate doesn’t state the hospital. Are you saying that I’m ineligible for the Presidency? And if you want to contradict me on this, please provide a direct source where Obama has said that it was Queen’s Medical Center.

    2. Don’t know, don’t really care. It has no bearing on his eligibility for the Presidency. Are you saying that if he was birthed by Dr. West, he is a Natural Born Citizen, but if he was birthed by Dr. Smith, he isn’t? I cannot tell you which Doctor delivered me. I wouldn’t expect the doctor to actually acknowledge it, as it happened 25 years ago. Do you really think that Obama’s birth was so spetacular that an 75-year-old man would remember one of the thousands of babies that he delivered over his career, and specifically remember each and every baby that he delivered?

    3. 7:24 pm, Hawaiian Time, on August 4, 1961.

    As far as the other comments.

    Yes, foreign-born babies can get birth certificates from the Government of Hawaii. What they cannot get is birth certificates that say: “City of Birth: Honolulu, Island of Birth: Oahu, County of Birth: Honolulu”. You can’t get around that fact. Given the fact of this, and that Dr. Alvin T. Onaka says on the back of the COLB: “I hereby certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file at The Hawaii Department of Health” and signed the certificate, that means that the government of Hawaii thinks that he was born in Hawaii. This has directly been confirmed by the Hawaii Department of Health, which has also said that the COLB is “a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”

    As Josh said, either he was born in Hawaii, there’s a 50-year conspiracy and the government of Hawaii was duped, or the Government of Hawaii is directly lying. Those are the only possibilities.

  35. dunstvangeet Says:

    As far as the definition of Natural Born Citizen, it is defined as a citizen by birth, as differentiated by those who are Naturalized Citizens.

    Naturalization literally means the process of making someone natural. All citizens are naturals of the country. It’s you have Natural-Born, and Naturalized citizens. There is not one Supreme Court case that has held that there’s a citizen-by-birth, but not a Natural-Born Citizen.

  36. Rory Says:

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  37. JimA Says:

    Hello Greg Jackson,

    You need to revise your offer to make it a 5-part question:

    4. What was his birth weight?

    5. What was his birth length?

    Every mother in America tell three things about the newborn:
    Birth time, weight, length.

  38. ED Sunderland Says:

    Actually, George is correct,

    Barack Obama was born at:

    Coast Provincial Hospital, Mambassa, Kenya,
    on Aug. 4th @ 7:24 PM.
    Attending was James O. W. Ang’Awa
    Weight 7lbs 1oz of stupid

    So, the premise of your challenge by naming a hospital “in Hawaii” guarantees “no one” can answer that question. I guess your 50 G’s are safe. Besides, Obama has named two hospitals in Hawaii neither of which are correct. In my view, if you name two hospitals as your place of birth, they in effect cancel each other out.
    His so called birth certificate is a forgery. Obama is a fake and a fraud!

    In keeping with this line, “why did Nancy Pelosi send two Official Certification of Nominations for BHO an JB?” One that followed the Constitutional requirements and another that did not. Could that be why New Hampshire is investigation the probability of “election fraud?”

  39. Jon Says:

    Your wrong, Bush\’s \"supposed\" hospital never confirmed his birth. Bush is still an illegal former president.

    First, cite your sources. When/Where did Obama say he was born in Queens medical?

    Again, the State of Hawaii has verified his Birth. If you want to assert that Obama was not born in Hawaii, you have to take that issue up with them(Hawaii State govt). Obama has been officially recognized by the government as being a natural born citizen. If you don\’t recognize what the government says, than that is treason. If an illegal immigrat comes to the US and breaks more laws, but claims that he doesn\’t recognize the laws of the government, would that fly? No. That would be a hostile act. Same with you.

    Now, if government did not recognize Obama as a natural born citizen, you would have a case. But your going against official government stance, and so, you are committing treason.

  40. ED Sunderland Says:

    Jon, first of all, “you are going to believe the government?” Official government affidavy of BHO as being a citizen does not make BO constitutionally qualified. Government has been tromping all over the constitution as if it doesn’t exist and that has to stop. That is why all the tea party protests are growing.

    BO in a court case in Jan. of this year admitted he was a “native citizen” but did not go so far as to say he was a Natural Born American Citizen which is required to be prez. He did not provide a certified copy of an actual birth certificate. He said this because he cannot be a natural born citizen when his daddy was never a US citizen. His daddy was a British citizen and I think his step dad was too.

    There is also another interesting point. BO’s momma. There are laws on the books that say you have to be 16 years of age to drive a car, 18 to sign a contract, 16 or 18 to join the Military (not sure which) and check this out, you had to be a certain age to “transfer citizenship” to you kids. It’s been proven, that BO’s mamma didn’t meet that age requirement no matter what hospital he was born at.

    Remember, she spent a lot of time out of this country and in order for BHO or “Barry Soetoro” to attend his school in Indonesia and study Islam, he had to be a citizen of that country (unlike our country unfortunately).

    If the State of Hawaii has an official birth certificate with hospital, attending physician, weight, footie prints, and all the other document entries of regular birth certificates, why didn’t they say that is what they have? And why is BHO spending time, money, and government attorneys to keep a lid on this rocket that is a fixin to blow?

    All I can say about this entire issue is that government failed the American Citizen again, as usual. Our government makes the Keystone Cops look organized.

  41. Etraveler13 Says:

    Always a catch Greg, 50K if you produce a Hawaiian Birth Certificate, he was born in Kenya. So no do-re-me…LOL thats ok. Here is the info:

    * This is a typed document
    Copy is issued on Feb 1, 09 by
    Hilton Magonga
    Chief Administrator (so should be there today)
    Issued by:
    Coast Province General Hospital
    Mombasa British Protectoriate of Kenya
    Certificate Number 32018
    DOB August 4, 1961 Time: 7:42PM
    Weight: 7Lbs, 1 Oz 18\" Long
    Mother: Stanley Ann Obama
    Maiden Name: Dunham
    Birthplace of Mother:
    Wichita, KS, United States
    Residence of Mother:
    Honalulu, Hawaii, United States
    Occupation of Mother: Student
    Barak Hussein Obama
    DOB: 1936
    Birthplace of Father:
    Kanyadhiang village,Kenya
    Occupation of Father: Student
    Attending Physician:
    James O. W. Ang\’Awa
    Hospital Administrator:
    John Kwame Odongo 8/7/1961

    Keep the cash, just get em out!

  42. Etraveler13 Says:

    Oh yeah, width across shoulders at birth 6″

  43. nosf41 Says:

    Jon and Josh,
    Extensive information on the genesis of the Obama’s birth certificate issue can be found here:

  44. Mirac Says:

    Both Bushes parents were US citizens, both born in America and proven. Bush never lived in or had relatives in Kenya.Bush has been in the U S Military. Obama has been in rev wrights rascist anti-american church for 20 years. Bush NEVER had anything close to the anti-American radicals Obama has surrounding him! Bush actually succeeded at working and running businesses in his life, Obama is a radical career black rights lawyer, who supports the criminal group ACORN ,and trained them . Bush had an American President for a father, Obama had what? A communist Kenyan!
    So there you have the answer to the ignorant liberal questions of “why the concern of whether Obama is an American citizen?” The concern is that he is surrounded with anti-american values radicals, a danger to our country, just Impeach the clown now, then he can stick his phony b/c wherever the phony chooses.

  45. HMTKSteve Says:

    The “10 and 5” year rule does not apply as Hawaii was (and still is) a state at the time of Obama’s birth. If this rule were true there would be a lot of non-citizen children of teenage parents!!!

    Please stop confusing ‘natural born citizen’ with citizenship in general. It muddies the water and makes you look like an idiot.

  46. JiminCali Says:

    the following link answers your questions

    I have done broadcasts for making me a memeber of the media. I want the $50,000 your offering shortly, but I think you are full of ***

    Obama parents nationality would only matter if he were not born in the us.
    All persons born in the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of ambassadors or other foreign diplomats) are citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment.[9] Additionally, under sections 301–309 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (restated in sections 1401–1409 of Title 8 of the United States Code), current U.S. law defines numerous other categories of individuals born abroad, as well as people born in most U.S. territories and possessions, as being “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth”.[10] The phrase “natural born citizen,” however, does not appear in the current statutes dealing with citizenship at birth.

  47. JE Says:

    Man, signing up for Little League sure has changed since I was a kid!

  48. MA Says:

    Source for Dr. Rodney T. West as delivering physician:

  49. rexdoggins Says:

    I don’t know how he’s getting away with his bigg-than-watergate cover-up. I thank
    God for courageous patriots like you, Orly Taitz, Alan Keyes to name a few. Many
    people are in on the cover-up. Many others like Jon can’t handle the truth. Still
    others don’t even care.

  50. smrstrauss Says:

    Re: “The COLB Obama has posted on the web site was given out at the time (1961) to people not even born in Hawaii…”

    This is NOT true. That law was passed in 1982, more than twenty years after Obama was born. Obama has posted the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate. Yes, it is a short form certificate, but it is the only birth certificate that Hawaii currently sends out ( And the facts on the document, that Obama was born in Hawaii were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii. (

    As The Wall Street Journal put it: “Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.”

  51. Mike Hunt Says:

    “Bush was born in Yale-New Haven Hospital and the record of his birth is actually on file there. ”

    I’ve never seen a notarized document proving this.

    Please supply, or we’ll have to assume Bush wasn’t an American either.

  52. Adam Says:

    Who cares. The rule for a person to be a natural born citizen is a bad one anyway. Our first 4 presidents at least didn’t technically fit this criteria.

    The fact is, Obama has been proven to have been born in Hawaii and the state of Hawaii has confirmed that. Do you think the Republican party would have let something like this slip through the cracks if it had any merit? It is simply a useless scare tactic that has no bearing on Obama’s ability to lead or legitimacy to be president.

    So I have a question for you. If he was born outside of the country can you tell me the doctor who delivered him, the name of the hospital, and the time he was born and give legitimate documentation to back that up?

    Also, if he was born outside the country and brought here as an infant why should that make him ineligible to be president? I know its in our Constitution, but there have been amendments to the constitution for a reason. Do you think he feels like less of an american than you? In my eyes this whole argument is a ridiculous waste of time.

  53. yo Says:

    The heck of it is, after we finally get to see the birth certificate and find that there is nothing but an affidavit, all we’re gonna here is that the affidavit proves he was born in hawaii and we’re just a bunch of nuts for thinking otherwise.

  54. sim Says:

    In the U.S. legal code, the burden of proof is on the Plaintiff in a Civil case. That is, “the plaintiff must prove each element of the claim, or cause of action, in order to recover.” In criminal cases, the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. In simple terms, this equates to “innocent until proven guilty”. How this plays out in practice is that I don’t get to just invent a claim against you and then you have to prove your innocence. I have to have sufficient evidence to demonstrate your guilt. There has, as of yet, been insufficient evidence under US law to support a claim and, as such, the burden of proof is still on the people making those claims.

    So, my question to you is “Why do you hate America?” I’m not being facetious, but clearly you have no respect for the American legal system and clearly no respect for the office of the President… I will grant you the assumption that you respect our Legislative Branch, but that may also be a stretch.

  55. NoVaMan Says:

    According to story Barak Hussein Obama tells
    a – mother was too young to bestow citizenship on him
    b – father was British subject making Barak a british citizen, even if he was born on NBC television in the Lincoln bedroom.
    c – 2008 US Senate resolution (ironically declaring McCain a Natural Born Citizen, and sponsored by Hillary and Obama) and historical case law, requires both parents to be citizens to be a natural born citizen. Citizenship can be acquired in many other ways, but NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP can only be had one way, and is bestowed at birth.

    But the real point is this.

    Obama could have been the son of Malcolm X and Nancy Reagan, and born in Antarctica for all we know. You can’t prove otherwise. The so-called certification that Obama has offered, was offered to those of foreign births, so even if it’s not a fake, still doesn’t prove anything.

    We just don’t know. That’s the problem.

  56. Steve Says:

    If Obama were born someplace other than Honolulu, the short form would say so:

    In an article on
    “If you were born in Bali, for example, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali,” Janice Okubo, the director of communications for the state Department of Health, told the Washington Independent’s David Weigel recently. “You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate.”

    But the state of Hawaii is in on this conspiracy, right?
    Also, do you really think Hilary Clinton and/or John McCain tanked the election? If Obama was really born someplace else or otherwise not a natural-born citizen, wouldn’t Clinton or McCain have found out about it and used that information?

  57. FollowtheConstitution Says:

    “”Actually, there are two applicable, for this discussion, rules for those born between 1952 and 1986.

    1. The parent who is the citizen must have lived at least 10 years in the US before the child’s birth.
    2. 5 of those 10 must be after the parents 14th birthday. *
    You can find this information on the site I linked to earlier.

    *Ann Dunham was born in 1942 and left for Indonesia in 1966 which doing the math means she qualified. As far as I know she was a citizen her entire life. Please correct me if I’m wrong.”””

    You are wrong. She missed the age requirement by a few months. Obama was born a few months before her 19th birthday.

    But, that law only applies to children that were born outside of the US. “IF” Obama was born in HI then he would be a US citizen, but NOT a US Natural Born Citizen because his father was a British subject which means Obama was born with DUAL citizenship owing allegiance to Britain which to this day he is still a British citizen. If Obama was to go to Britain they could hold him to their laws and there is nothing the US could do about it. Just like while being here the US holds him to our laws here where there is nothing Britain could do about it. This is the very thing the framers of the constitution wanted to prevent from ever happening which is why they required a POTUS to be a natural born citizen. Citizenship follows the citizenship of the father which is what made Obama a dual citizen at birth. (Assuming he was born in HI)

    IF it is proven he was not born in HI then Obama is not even a citizen muchless a natural born citizen because if he was born on foreign soil his mother was not old enough to pass her citizenship to him at the time he was born. But this law only applied to foreign births.

  58. admin Says:

    Alot of people claiming that Obama was born at a certain hospital in Hawaii and even some who have cited the attending physician and time Soetoro/Obama was born.

    Unfortunately, folks, nobody has actually cited the actual birth certificate that substantiates any of the answers provided.

    Where is the actual birth certificate?

    If somebody out there can provide the valid long-form Hawaiian birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama or Barry Soetoro in the next 7 days, you will be $50,000 richer!

    But please, no more claims without documented proof.


  59. Steve Says:

    Obama has already released a completely legal form proving where he was born. You refused to accept it.
    If he does release his long-form certificate, what’s to say you won’t be satisfied with that?
    Heck, if somebody found a video of his birth, with the sign for the hospital in the background and Don Ho singing during the delivery, that still wouldn’t be enough proof, would it?

  60. frdmlovr Says:

    Don’t the lefties ever ask themselves why would someone spend so much money to hide so many things that so many people want to see?

  61. Howard Appel Says:

    As people have already pointed out,

    1. Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, Honolulu, HI
    2. David A. Sinclair, MD.
    3. 7:24 PM (Hawaii Standard Time) on 4 August 1961



    You sir, are a lying, hypocritical, bigoted sack of excrement.

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